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Gun Violence - Enough is Enough - Shared screen with gallery view
Vandeth Sek
09:09
Aloha Dr. Generals. Thank you for hosting this important subject. My name is Vandeth Sek. I am with the office of Congresswoman Mary Gay Scanlon. I focused on gun violence for the Congresswoman. I would love to have a follow up conversation with you on a latter date to see how our office can support you folks efforts on gun violence. Is there an email I can reach you on?
Vandeth Sek
09:26
My email is Vandeth.sek@mail.house.gov
Edgardo Nieves
13:09
Good morning Jamie CHS 255
Edgardo Nieves
13:26
Awesome!!!!
Jamie Gauthier
14:18
Hey Edgardo! 255 in house!!
Edgardo Nieves
14:54
Im a probation officer in the mental health unit here in Philly.
Edgardo Nieves
15:18
I am also an outpatient therapist for Children at Merakey
Gwendolyn Toler
15:23
Goodmorning! Everyone
Edgardo Nieves
15:32
So this is personal as you just said.
Erica Harrison
16:40
Thank you for coming Vandeth - I will pass your message along to our president
Dr. Stephen Flemming
19:00
GM! A question for later—I know a teenager who wants to turn in a gun this weekend at at city’s gun buy-back. They’re concerned that they’ll be questioned because of their age. I want to put their fears to rest. Can I?
Erica Harrison
19:28
Feel free to submit questions for our panelists in the Q&A box.
David Dooley
26:08
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Gilberto Gonzalez
27:52
Collecting Data is one idea of addressing the problem of Violence but who is meeting with the people? Who is sitting in the neighborhoods? Does the panel think it is time for a grassroots approach? Why or Why not?
Eva Blackwell (she/her/hers)
29:39
Public Health as in relentless mental Health is important!
Daniel.Brown
30:17
We need to address the factors that contribute to gun violence.
Erica Harrison
30:23
Well Said Professor
Nika Stephens (S1, She/Her)
30:32
Amen! We’ve spent enough time diagnosing the problem. Now, let’s do something about it. The best answer is to make access to firearms very difficult.
Judy Cruz-Ransom
30:47
Spot on Professor Rahman!
Jacquelyn Bryant
32:34
We need to invest in our children by returning the arts, libraries, librarians, nurses, and counselors, to every school. Invest in our children on the front end.
Julio C. Nuñez
32:40
Why do we keep treating gun violence as the culprit, and not as a consequence of the multigenerational racial inequities? Where’s the city-wide strategy AND urgency to treat the disease and not the symptoms? Without one, our aim is misguided.
Daniel.Brown
34:07
Too many people are profiting from the problem instead of putting money into the resolution.
Gwendolyn Toler
34:15
Yes they been shooting and killing my young black youths in my community drive bys and all so disrespectful
John Woodson
34:16
Manuel Smith didn't answer the question.
Lamya Broussard
34:44
@Julio Nunez. I agree! Roots must be treated to heal the who tree. If the branches only are clipped and treated the internal damage will continue to reoccur.
April
34:57
yes GUN VIOLENCE is pussed aside ... there's only 365 days of the year & it's almost summer #SMH
David Thomas
35:47
Similarly, the Safe Corridors initiative was a community-based approach to make sure students were safe going to and from schools. Men United for a Better Philadelphia and TownWatch lead this work in Philly.
Theresa Payne
35:48
Sadly, this is the first time in my life that I am actually fearful of being out and about in my own City....
Jerry Ratcliffe
36:10
Mr Smith, my colleague Dr. Ralph Taylor evaluated Operation Safe Streets and found that it did link to a reduction in violence in the immediate environment of the safe streets corners. He published this research.
Manuel Smith
36:42
That's good feedback Jerry. I believe that I have seen that report.
Eva Blackwell (she/her/hers)
36:56
Operation Safe Streets was effective, a solution could be ways to sustain these types of actions.
Neena Jacob
37:05
What efforts are being made to heal and restore communities/families from the vicarious trauma of gun violence?
Jerry Ratcliffe
37:23
Lawton, B. A., Taylor, R. B., & Luongo, A. J. (2005). Police officers on drug corners in Philadelphia, drug crime, and violent crime: Intended, diffusion, and displacement Impacts. Justice Quarterly, 22(4), 427-451
Tasha H.
38:22
The Mayor needs to put money into the renovation of and reopen playgrounds for children to have somewhere to play. Incentivize community policing and volunteers to patrol the areas to deter unwanted behaviors. Focus on how these guns are being put in the hands of individuals.
Dave Brown
38:35
Crucial to focus on root causes; and change will come slowly. Also important to intervene in proximate causes, to obtain immediate decreases in deaths.
Neena Jacob
38:52
What efforts are being made to heal and restore communities/families from the vicarious trauma of gun violence?
Gwendolyn Toler
41:47
I've used programs that have worked through the advisory board in my community and the turn out was beautiful and it kept them from being Idol bodies or targets to Gun Violence not a band aide 6 to 8 eight programs yearly programs meaning trauma too as well
Tasha H.
41:49
Dialectical Behavior therapy is another awesome modality. We also need to normalize culturally informed trauma-based resources and devise constructive ways to implement them.
Jessica
43:19
What implications does the disparity in professional opportunity and housing have on gun violence, and how can we address this in a way that helps reduces the likelihood of gun violence? I am a Philly native and it does seem like there is an exponential growth (especially in the past 10-15 years) of new residents in higher income brackets, who have a more sustainable path to career growth and equity building. How can residents, government and businesses work together to invest in the opportunities for longstanding residents and communities in Philly, especially youth.
Angel
43:39
As well here in our city a mediation model where we also aim to address issues before they become violent (or prevent further violence), if someone knows of issues within their communities they reach out to work with our trained mediators to safely resolve conflicts www.phillytruce.com 267-45-TRUCE Give help. Get Help.
Norman Bonk
44:22
Just yesterday their was a shooting a block away from my corner deli. A week ago, two young men killed each other with guns over an argument outside the same deli a couple blocks from my house near 54th and Lansdowne. I am 55years old. I have observed throughout my life a dramatic increase in violent language and threats as a means of conflict resolution and managing everyday life- everything from an imagined slight to someone accidentally bumping into someone on a bus etc.. My point is that violence and violent language has become normalized in our culture and society and the end result is the tragic,dramatic increase in violent assaults and murders in Philadelphia and elsewhere, including our nation's capital on Jan. 6. Violent language and themes saturate popular music, social media, entertainment and culture. Violence, tragically, has become morally normalized as a means of conflict resolution. It is now very often seen as the "right" thing to do- not a failure, but a badge of honor.
goodenm
48:29
Facts !
Daniel.Brown
48:58
She knows what she's talking about
Gwendolyn Toler
49:02
You're right come on tell the truth
David Thomas
49:20
That’s been what I have been saying for a while, Professor Rahman! Conflict resolution is a necessary life skill for everyone to master.
April
49:42
Malika I feel EVERYTHING u said
Sunny Jackson Penn Trauma
49:56
Agreed
Gwendolyn Toler
50:04
It's a Togetherness issue
Daniel.Brown
50:34
Make education and investment in human captiol great again
Stephanie Le Clair
50:42
YEAH Philly provides conflict resolution training for youth in W/SW Philly
Norman Bonk
51:14
The questionsthen become, "How do we denormalize violence as a morally "right" way to navigate through life?" and "How do we teach non-violent conflict resolution as a viable moral and practical solution to conflicts that will achieve buy-in from the general public?" So much of identity, of "being cool" "being strong" "being successful" is now identified with who can dominate in a fight, who has the last word with a bullet. Anything less is seen as a failure and anyone who does not fight in these ways is seen as "a punk" "weak" etc.. In so far as we are dealing with a multi-generational problem at this point, we must consider law enforcement, investment, teaching values, re-setting community standards(for real) and after care services for trauma. Thank you so much for doing this. I also think "Philly Truce" is a potential game changer in positively changing cultural norms re violence as well as providing vital services. Prayers.
Julio C. Nuñez
51:47
Is it a complex problem? Or just Poverty and lack of Opportunity, and everything else stemming from it?
John Woodson
52:53
Rahman, you're distracted by the limit in the question. 4 panelist could highlight 4 different solutions. Limit responses to 1 helps limit the response time. Don't be so defensive/combative.
goodenm
52:57
Philadelphia works in silos and that's the biggest issue here, I agree we need to all come together in order to solve the issue.
Lori Nielsen
53:44
I M white women living in Central North Philly. what needs to happen is for white professionals to stop saying.. there are mis understanding. The understanding is the black community us being shot and killed. I have d protested since the eighties in Philly. Nothing will change unless white people use their privilege to help.
Gwendolyn Toler
53:59
We don't live in the hospital's we live in the communities where the shootings and killings are going on
Nika Stephens (S1, She/Her)
54:04
I’m about to bow out folks. I think we’re way overthinking this. Guns are simply too easy to obtain in this country, hence the epidemic of mass shootings in the U.S, not just in Philadelphia. And the shootings are not always committed by people in impoverished neighborhoods or by men of color. Most of the mass shootings are done by white men and often times middle class. We need to make guns difficult to obtain. Japan has very few shooting deaths annually out of a population of 127 million because it’s almost impossible to get a gun there. Shootings won’t happen if people don’t have guns. The problem is guns and their easy access. If mental health or environment were the real culprits, we’d see an equal number of shootings conducted by males and females. But it’s not the case. Mentally ill and/or impoverished women are not doing these shootings. The problem is access to guns. Any real solution to this problem needs to start there.I’m signing out.
Angel
54:05
Agreed, Dr. Johson-Speight! and Dr Rahman! Thank you!
David Dooley
55:12
Most, if not all, violent people experienced unsupportive and harmful parenting. Doesn’t this suggest that parenting education be included in any effort to prevent violence? Not conventional parenting education, but a new kind of public health approach parenting education that reaches everyone, everywhere.Perhaps national parenting education campaigns akin to the smoking and seatbelts campaigns of the past. Perhaps national multi-media messaging that teaches parenting behaviors and practices generally recognized as supporting the healthy development of children.Visit www.advancingparenting.org. In our own unique way we are taking this approach to preventing violence and other problems associated with unsupportive and harmful parenting.
Tasha H.
55:25
COMMUNITY SURVEY
Lamya Broussard
55:30
Yes great points Professor Rahman and Dr. Johnson-Speight!
Gilberto Gonzalez
55:51
Starting with Talking to the people who live in this!
Michelle Lopez
55:53
"You believe them" - love that!
Tasha H.
56:10
You canvass the neighborhoods and ask questions offer ways for them to offer suggestions both anonymously and in person.
Patience Lehrman
56:15
Start by listening to the residents and empowering the voices of the stakeholders
Vandeth Sek
56:30
You give them a space to talk! Philadelphia doesn't have neighborhood board meetings supported through the City.
Tasha H.
56:48
The State reps that live in those districts must help to spearhead these community surveys
Gwendolyn Toler
57:16
Programs community engagement recreation centers libraries
David Thomas
57:30
To underscore Dr. Speight and Professor Rahman’s points, telling the story of gun violence from the voices of those in the community is the core purpose of the Center for Better Gun Violence Reporting. Often, those most impacted are those with solutions to the problem. We need to empower them to have valued voice in the issue.
Akilah A. (she/her)
57:46
I think we have to be mindful of not gatekeeping access to resources based on “evidence-based” paradigms because the systems that produce, manage and disseminate evidence are also often imperialist systems that devalue non-industrialized care and healing. Gun violence itself is evidence. The blood of our youth dying in the streets is evidence. The numbers don’t tell the whole story.
Gwendolyn Toler
58:10
Education job training too
goodenm
58:39
I agree David, true indeed.
Tasha H.
59:38
The neighbors must feel that they can trust the system. so often they are lied to and disappointed by those who have the platform to help those neighbors. You need to have credible messengers from the community that can speak to their peers and their fellow neighbors. Have town hall meetings that can be structured and facilitated and have real follow up to issues presented.
Lavern Allen
59:41
I see a lot of issues in west Philadelphia area. What is the plan to combat it where parents, leaders and education is not working.
Elizabeth Canapary
59:46
Great point, Prof. Rahman - so much good work can be done in the prisons
Lori Nielsen
01:00:21
yes black young men gave always been killed . police do not see value in black lies. This is who is killing black men. can we talk about that?
Daniel.Brown
01:01:08
You need people who can take data and turn it into revolution. The issue was created through the deliberate disenfranchisement of a people. The "intellectuals" involved weren't confused then as they were making money. Now, a monster has been created and folks are confused about the problem. Follow the money trails of the entities that are profiting from this problem.
Rob Roy
01:01:12
One of the limitations of Evidence Based practices is that the evidence doesn’t convince everyone who is stuck in their ideology. I think of the Advance Peace program in California. The evidence shows that it was successful. The program helped halve the homicide rate in Stockton, CA. Yet, when the program tried to expand into Fresno, CA the police chief (who was running for mayor) said he was philosophically opposed to it. The evidence could not change his ideology. This is likely true to many stakeholders here in Philadelphia. When many people in public service cannot change their own minds with evidence, what can be changed?
Gwendolyn Toler
01:01:18
YES I come from Safe Strett Programs
Gwendolyn Toler
01:02:12
Safe Street does and always worked
Malika Rahman
01:04:23
Feeling helpless leads to feeling hopeless.. When we show compassion, we can begin to effectuate great change.
Stephanie Le Clair
01:05:18
Yes, definitely. Right now there are a lot of people who feel hopeless and like no one cares about their lives
Greg Heller
01:05:42
Great conversation. Interested to hear what are the primary things that City government should be doing and aren't right now. Thanks!
Tasha H.
01:05:59
Philadelphia Housing Authority (PHA) has created a new Initiative (Diversionary Initiative) to assist PHA residents with the after math following trauma and victimization. We conduct community surveys, facilitate meetings with Resident council to create resources WITH residents and collaborate on what they need and what they want.
Kathleen Murphey
01:06:09
What can average people do to be more involved?
Jaime Bedard
01:06:27
After reading, "The New Jim Crow" I have a whole new perspective on the need to stop mass incarceration to keep men home with their families and working and when they do come home from prison it is CRITICAL to provide support for finances, job training and connection to companies who will hire men/women with a record. As we speak of root causes....lack of decent jobs, mass incarceration, people paying for their non-violent infraction the rest of their lives even after they do their time.
Angela Miles (she/her)
01:07:03
+++
Gwendolyn Toler
01:07:05
My grants went to the programs that worked and we were closed out of our recreation center before covid-19 only wished we had them yearly not 6 to 8 weeks
Akilah A. (she/her)
01:07:24
Compassion. An underutilized practice 🙌🏾
Janice Tosto she/her
01:07:43
My organization, Bebashi is having a free Community Conversation on Food Insecurity and Gun Violence. on Tuesday, July 20th at 10am. Councilmember Gauthier will be a panelist, as will trauma surgeon Dr. Randi Smith. Information is available at www.bebashi.org.
Faye Allard (she/her)
01:07:57
^Agreed 100% Akilah and Dr. Speight
Daniel.Brown
01:08:06
You can't have it where these young African American males are good for football and funeral homes but not worth a safer America.
Gwendolyn Toler
01:08:06
YES DR. the truth
Lamya Broussard
01:08:14
Absolutely, evidenced based and data collection must be trauma informed and culturally considered. Many of social service programs dealing with sensitive issues such as homicides and "progress" may not be measured the same as other studies. Sometimes Qualitative and clinical observations provide the best raw "evidence" one can provide.
Shelli
01:08:23
As a resident of the city of Philadelphia (born and raised), but one who has also (lived/spent measurable time living in Wash., D.C. and California.), I value the comments of those who speak for the community. However, I also value the voices of Drs. Abaya and Beard, specifically Dr. Beard"s point regarding some evidence based statistics. Funders ($$) often want to see the data.
Angela Miles (she/her)
01:09:25
^^^
Angela Miles (she/her)
01:09:41
+++
Gwendolyn Toler
01:09:58
Internet beefs are one of the problems
Patience Lehrman
01:10:26
How about humanizing the life of the victim during the reporting so the listener can relate to the victim as a human being?
Dr.Dorothy Johnson-Speight
01:10:32
Mothers In Charge, Inc.
Donald Generals
01:10:50
Can you speak to the role social media plays in facilitating/perpetuating gun violence and is that a way to intervene before? If these were terrorists threats, there would be different intelligence response. Famous rapper was shot on a live instigram video.
Jim MacMillan
01:10:57
There’s a new resource from The Trace with resources for people affected by gun violence in Philadelphia: https://www.uptheblock.org/en/
Dr.Dorothy Johnson-Speight
01:11:13
www.mothersincharge.org 215 2281718
Jim MacMillan
01:11:23
Every newsroom is invited to share Up the Block.
April
01:11:32
i believe in the "Broken-Windows theory" if community looks better maybe violence will stop
Vandeth Sek
01:11:46
Gun buy back is like trying to dry the ocean with a mop and bucket
Jim MacMillan
01:11:51
Learn more about the Center for Gun Violence Reporting at CCP: https://www.pcgvr.org/
Gwendolyn Toler
01:12:08
That's something Ican't have is Play street because number streets can't do Play street
Janice Tosto she/her
01:12:11
Bebashi is holding a free community conversation on food insecurity and gun violence on Tuesday, July 20th at 10am. Councilmember Gauthier is a panelist, as well as Dr. Randi Smith, trauma surgeon. Information is available at www.bebashi.org
Erica Harrison
01:12:11
Thank you all for joining today. This topic deserves a pt2. Recording will be available at www.ccp.edu/enough
Kathryn Birster (she/her)
01:12:28
Yes it does, Erica.
Angela Miles (she/her)
01:12:29
+++ thank you all
Vandeth Sek
01:12:29
what happened to the Q&A?
Akilah A. (she/her)
01:12:33
Thank you to all the panelists!
Elise Johnson
01:12:34
this was great
Lily
01:12:36
Thank you!
Latoya Bond
01:12:36
Great discussion!
Theresa Payne
01:12:37
Thank you to all of the panelists!!!!
Jessica
01:12:38
Thank yu
Charlotte Barron
01:12:38
Thank you all!
Kathleen Murphey
01:12:42
Thank you
Jessica
01:12:43
Thank you
Vandeth Sek
01:12:46
Thank you!
Faye Allard (she/her)
01:12:47
Thank you!
Jenifer Fitzmaurice
01:12:50
Thank you Everyone! Please Stay Safe and Well!
Lamya Broussard
01:12:50
Thank you all!
Lauren Magee
01:12:51
Thank you!! Please host another one.
Theresa Payne
01:12:54
Needs to be part 2
Lynsey Jae Grace (she/her)
01:12:57
Thank you very much to all the panelists! Much love and many blessings... :)
Ronnie Bloom
01:13:04
Thank you to all the panelists and to CCP for its partnership on these issues.
Jenavia Weaver
01:13:06
This was a great discussion.
April
01:13:07
thank u all
Dr. Stephen Flemming
01:13:11
Thanks!
Waverly Coleman
01:13:11
Thank you for participating and providing potential solutions to gun violence!